The new map looks better than the old one Richard, with more details as you zoom in. Thanks.
However (and this happened with the previous version, but I never got around to letting you know), as you zoom in close, the walk icon disappears as does the track (if one is loaded). This is on my laptop.
Thought that I would double check that the above loss of the icon and track happens on my phone version. Oh dear, it does not want to load the map at all!
What type of phone do you have @F_A_B_Ferguson_Adven?
Iāve just checked and Iām getting the same problem when I zoom in so Iāll take a look at that.
The phone is a Samsung, but donāt worry about it at the moment, as I seem to have a āSamsung Pandemicā around the house with all the TV apps crashing and I was having further issues with the phone last night.
Another observation, is that I put up a new walk āFranz Josef Glacier Valley Walkā and all of a sudden the icon is no longer on the home page map. The track is, but not the icon. Could be I loaded/updated it just as you were putting up the new map format and we lost it?
Thanks Paul. Let me know whether the phone map comes around or not once the other issues are fixed. Iām keen to make sure the map is working for everybody.
Iāve just pushed out a fix so the walks donāt disappear when you zoom in.
The Franz Josef Glacier walk is still having trouble. Now that Iāve fixed the zoom issue it eventually turns up when you zoom far enough in, however, it should be visible much further out. Iāll have to work out why itās choosing to hide it.
Fantastic work with all the New Zealand walks youāve added! Iāll have to grab some one of them for a Name This Walk soon.
Zoom now working a treat and the Samsung Phone was a separate issue and now sorted.
Just Franz Josef to fix. Maybe moving the location of the icon a fraction might reload it?
Still have another eight new walks to load from our NZ trip plus one to tick that already exists.
Richard, I think I have work out the problem with Franz Josef and many many others I have now tested.
It is a proximity problem! If two or more walk ālabelsā on the map overlaps one another, one will blank out the other(s). Then, when you zoom in and there is more space for the ālabelā, the other walk(s) will pop up correctly.
Kings Canyon is a classic case. In fact one walk there pops up as you zoom in, only to disappear again until you zoom in further and it pops up again!
Thanks @F_A_B_Ferguson_Adven. I was working on a solution but switched over to concentrate on the promoting the 50km search function. Iāll get back to it soon though Iād also like to find a good way to lead people towards the official park alerts since so many walks are closed at the moment.
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@F_A_B_Ferguson_Adven Hi Paul, Iāve updated the map so it now allows labels to overlap. This means that the walks all appear now, you just canāt read their labels sometimes. Iād like to come up with a better solution - perhaps merging walks when theyāre close and you click on them to see all the walks in that group. At least for the moment weāre no longer losing walks off the map.
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Noticing a slight glitch Richard. If you go into the āwalksā map and then click on a walk, the base details come up in a box to the right of the screen. No problem.
Then you have the option to click through to the walk, again no problem.
But if you want to come back out to the āwalksā map by clicking the āleft arrowā at the top, nothing happens. Iām sure it used to work. The only option at the moment is to click the āwalksā icon and reload the map.
Thanks Paul. Iāll see what I can find. I did a quick test on a couple of devices and wasnāt able to reproduce it but Iāll keep trying.
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Hi @AussieBushwalking. Just wondering how can we edit a track to have a different region?
I like the region areas already created, However Iād like to make the regions a bit more specific then just state for some tracks. I would sort them out as per the following image. If I could create sub-regions within the 7 regions below I would then add the corresponding national park too them. I see there are sub regions with sub-sub regions so I know itās possible.
@Maverick Iāve been thinking for a while that there are enough QLD walks that having regions could be useful. I just checked and it turns out I had the ability to change a walkās region limited to āmoderatorsā without realising it. I guess early on I was worried about things being move around unnecessarily. I donāt have that concern so Iāll get that fixed up so any user can change a walkās region. Iāll post back here once thatās done (hopefully wonāt take long).
In the meantime Iāve made you a moderator so you can get started. Youāll notice a couple of other extra links around the place - just be aware that some of the moderator tools are only for moderators because I theyāre only partially working. Changing regions shouldnāt have any problems though. If you donāt get the option to change the region when you edit a walk now just try logging out and back in to pick up the moderator change.
Hi @AussieBushwalking I see a huge task ahead, Iāll try my best to get them all done. I do now have moderator links, so I can change track regions .
However I canāt move the already created regions to sub regions. so if you could that would be great. To be sorted based on the map previously posted as follows:
Far North QLD
Barron Gorge National Park; Daintree National Park; Wooroonooran National Park
North Qld
Central QLD
Cania Gorge National Park; Carnarvon National Park;
Darling Downs:
Bunya Mountains; Crows Nest National Park; Girraween National Park; Ravensbourne National Park; Toowoomba
SE QLD:
Amamoor State Forest; Brisbane City Council Local Walks; Brisbane Forest park DāAguilar National Park {needs to be renamed:DāAguilar National Park} Coombabah Lakelands Conservation Area; Daisy Hill Conservation Park; Eumundi Conservation Park; Glass House Mountains; Glen Rock Regional Park; Ipswich; Ipswich - Flinders Goolman Conservation Estate Sub-Region; Jimna State Forest; Karawatha Forest; Kondalilla National Park; Lamington National Park; Main Range National Park; Mapleton National Park; Moogerah Peaks National Park; Moreton Bay Tamborine National Park; Sunshine Coast; Parklands Conservation Park; Mt Barney National Park
Wide bay Burnett:
Brooyar State Forest; Conondale National Park; Expedition National Park; Great Sandy National Park; Woondum National Park;
Mackay, Isaac and Whitsunday
Iāve also noticed: in the āWorldā Region there are sub-regions Zahra; Alice and the rock!; Southern Highlands. Iād say these 3 should be deleted {I donāt want to push that button yet as a moderator}. No tracks in them.
Thinking it might be a good idea to split SE QLD into different regions too but not sure as to where the boundary would lay.
Happy Editing
Maverick, I did some work on this earlier in the year and created Far North QLD, North QLD, Central QLD and South East QLD, which might help you. I moved all the walks that were not in a sub-region (i.e. a NP etc) into these four regions using a rough latitude line. That didnāt actually take me that long to achieve.
As you said, the one thing not available at the moment is to move sub-regions into the seven regions suggested. Also currently āmoderatorsā canāt delete a region, probably as a safeguard, as it could be dangerous if there is a āwalkā within it, that might get deleted as well. I always as Richard to delete them.
Going forward, there is then a maintenance issue, as new bushwalk posters are notorious for not allocating walks to the correct region or sub-region, let alone providing the map co-ordinates! I try and keep an eye on new walks loaded, but not sure how to keep the dynamic accurate going forward?
O.K. that is QLD sorted, what about the rest? I did some work on Tasmania and more recently New Zealand, but I wouldnāt call it fully comprehensive.
Well I started as of yesterday, trying to get them more in line with a council region more so then a latitude line. I did notice some saying north QLD. But Iāve only changed them based on the point location.
Also noticed NZ, maybe it could be sub regioned North Island/south island? Havenāt really looked too much into other state regions. Might start a different forum tonight weāre different maps of regions can be stored for future reference.
Would be good if the point location decided the region it was located in, but that does seem like a lot of effort instead of just getting moderators to quickly look at the point location
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I split NZ into North and South region, but given there are so few walks, canāt see a good reason to introduce sub-regions.
South Australia should be easy; it only has six walks. And WA has only 10.
Iām loving the work here. I checked and moving subregions seems to be restricted to admins (aka me) at the moment so Iāll fix that up at the same time as I fix the walks. Shouldnāt take me too long.
Iāve been wanting to also write a little tool that will use state and national park boundaries to detect walks that arenāt in their correct region. That should help with these changes so Iāll pop that up the priority list.
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I had been thinking along those lines last night, of some how indication the boundaries of the regions/sub-regions on the āmap pageā, but reckoned it was probably a huge job for you to achieve. You have probably run out of colours to use! Users will not know the boundaries of the new seven sub-regions including myself.
This would definitely help when loading a new walk (and maintenance), as long as users look at the āmap pageā first before adding a walk.
I have to say, that they donāt do a good job of this at the moment. If you look at the last two walks loaded (Piccabeenā and āPagesā), they were both put in āQueenslandā, but not in the sub-region of Conondale NP and Springbrook NP! (I will correct this later). This leads back to the discipline and maintenance issue I mentioned before. There are currently no āsearchā options to identify them and you canāt keep going through 750+ QLD walks to make sure they are in the correct sub-region.
As a side note. The āWalk on waterā walk I mentioned the other day turned out to be a duplicate of an existing walk so I āmergedā it in order to get rid of it. Incidentally the āmergeā option does not seem to be working very well at the moment. It is very slow and does not pick up the walk you want to merge into correctly. I will write this issue up separately.
So shall I hold off checking/chaning the regions based off the map I had. I figured since it was based off council zones it may be a bit easier to indicate where it belongs if itās not part of a national park.
Also Iāve added the council zones in each regions description, I know that wont help the people creating new walks, but might create some clarity if people are moving walks into the region/checking them.
Another Question. How many walks in a national park till you feel itās worth creating a region for that national park? Or should all national parks be a region? If thatās the case, While I check tracks I can go about creating new regions for each too. Or would the thing you ( @AussieBushwalking) talking about highlighting the parks would this create regions that donāt exist?